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		<title>By: Thusenth</title>
		<link>http://startupnorth.ca/2008/09/16/turns-out-angel-incubator-vc%e2%80%99s-were-not-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-10707</link>
		<dc:creator>Thusenth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Canada has a few unique challenges.  We can&#039;t expect to be as efficient/successful as the U.S. (in terms of VC success - lets not talk about their Finance skills as a whole), when we&#039;re geographically bigger than all of the US but contain a population equivalent to one state - California.  It shows as VCs in Canada averaged a much lower return on their investment.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What Canada is lacking are the big inspirational role models - the Bill Gates, Paul Allens, Steve Jobs, Larry Pages, Mark Cubans, Peter Thiel, Mark Andreesens etc.  These guys have had so much media coverage and have inspired so many new entrepreneurs - they have become stars of capitalism.  Some of them have had multiple successes and continue to reinvest in new entrepreneurs as VCs or Angels.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And I think that&#039;s where Canada is different.  Our media coverage seems to highlight more &#039;old-money&#039;  and their movements- Thomsons, Westons, Rogers etc.  We haven&#039;t celebrated the successes of our technology companies in the same degree as the U.S.  Ask the average Canadian if they know Mike Lazaridis is - I even wonder how familiar Silicon Valley is with the name Mike Lazaridis.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That leads me to my next point - our biggest successes don&#039;t reinvest enough in new local entrepreneurs.  I feel as if we need more of a presence from our few success stories - this lack of presence could be because a) the media doesn&#039;t do enough to highlight their success or b) they aren&#039;t interested in the Canadian start-up space.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I feel as there&#039;s something fundamentally flawed in our startup system - and part of it could be that our government may be playing too much of a role in supporting the technology start-up space.  I think they may be inadvertently leaving little room for VCs and Angels to come in early.  I say critical because the difference in VC returns in Canada and the U.S. are staggering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Canada has a few unique challenges.  We can&#39;t expect to be as efficient/successful as the U.S. (in terms of VC success &#8211; lets not talk about their Finance skills as a whole), when we&#39;re geographically bigger than all of the US but contain a population equivalent to one state &#8211; California.  It shows as VCs in Canada averaged a much lower return on their investment.</p>
<p>What Canada is lacking are the big inspirational role models &#8211; the Bill Gates, Paul Allens, Steve Jobs, Larry Pages, Mark Cubans, Peter Thiel, Mark Andreesens etc.  These guys have had so much media coverage and have inspired so many new entrepreneurs &#8211; they have become stars of capitalism.  Some of them have had multiple successes and continue to reinvest in new entrepreneurs as VCs or Angels.</p>
<p>And I think that&#39;s where Canada is different.  Our media coverage seems to highlight more &#39;old-money&#39;  and their movements- Thomsons, Westons, Rogers etc.  We haven&#39;t celebrated the successes of our technology companies in the same degree as the U.S.  Ask the average Canadian if they know Mike Lazaridis is &#8211; I even wonder how familiar Silicon Valley is with the name Mike Lazaridis.  </p>
<p>That leads me to my next point &#8211; our biggest successes don&#39;t reinvest enough in new local entrepreneurs.  I feel as if we need more of a presence from our few success stories &#8211; this lack of presence could be because a) the media doesn&#39;t do enough to highlight their success or b) they aren&#39;t interested in the Canadian start-up space.</p>
<p>I feel as there&#39;s something fundamentally flawed in our startup system &#8211; and part of it could be that our government may be playing too much of a role in supporting the technology start-up space.  I think they may be inadvertently leaving little room for VCs and Angels to come in early.  I say critical because the difference in VC returns in Canada and the U.S. are staggering.</p>
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		<title>By: Thusenth</title>
		<link>http://startupnorth.ca/2008/09/16/turns-out-angel-incubator-vc%e2%80%99s-were-not-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-2559</link>
		<dc:creator>Thusenth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Canada has a few unique challenges.  We can&#039;t expect to be as efficient/successful as the U.S. (in terms of VC success - lets not talk about their Finance skills as a whole), when we&#039;re geographically bigger than all of the US but contain a population equivalent to one state - California.  It shows as VCs in Canada averaged a much lower return on their investment.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What Canada is lacking are the big inspirational role models - the Bill Gates, Paul Allens, Steve Jobs, Larry Pages, Mark Cubans, Peter Thiel, Mark Andreesens etc.  These guys have had so much media coverage and have inspired so many new entrepreneurs - they have become stars of capitalism.  Some of them have had multiple successes and continue to reinvest in new entrepreneurs as VCs or Angels.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And I think that&#039;s where Canada is different.  Our media coverage seems to highlight more &#039;old-money&#039;  and their movements- Thomsons, Westons, Rogers etc.  We haven&#039;t celebrated the successes of our technology companies in the same degree as the U.S.  Ask the average Canadian if they know Mike Lazaridis is - I even wonder how familiar Silicon Valley is with the name Mike Lazaridis.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That leads me to my next point - our biggest successes don&#039;t reinvest enough in new local entrepreneurs.  I feel as if we need more of a presence from our few success stories - this lack of presence could be because a) the media doesn&#039;t do enough to highlight their success or b) they aren&#039;t interested in the Canadian start-up space.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I feel as there&#039;s something fundamentally flawed in our startup system - and part of it could be that our government may be playing too much of a role in supporting the technology start-up space.  I think they may be inadvertently leaving little room for VCs and Angels to come in early.  I say critical because the difference in VC returns in Canada and the U.S. are staggering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Canada has a few unique challenges.  We can&#39;t expect to be as efficient/successful as the U.S. (in terms of VC success &#8211; lets not talk about their Finance skills as a whole), when we&#39;re geographically bigger than all of the US but contain a population equivalent to one state &#8211; California.  It shows as VCs in Canada averaged a much lower return on their investment.</p>
<p>What Canada is lacking are the big inspirational role models &#8211; the Bill Gates, Paul Allens, Steve Jobs, Larry Pages, Mark Cubans, Peter Thiel, Mark Andreesens etc.  These guys have had so much media coverage and have inspired so many new entrepreneurs &#8211; they have become stars of capitalism.  Some of them have had multiple successes and continue to reinvest in new entrepreneurs as VCs or Angels.</p>
<p>And I think that&#39;s where Canada is different.  Our media coverage seems to highlight more &#39;old-money&#39;  and their movements- Thomsons, Westons, Rogers etc.  We haven&#39;t celebrated the successes of our technology companies in the same degree as the U.S.  Ask the average Canadian if they know Mike Lazaridis is &#8211; I even wonder how familiar Silicon Valley is with the name Mike Lazaridis.  </p>
<p>That leads me to my next point &#8211; our biggest successes don&#39;t reinvest enough in new local entrepreneurs.  I feel as if we need more of a presence from our few success stories &#8211; this lack of presence could be because a) the media doesn&#39;t do enough to highlight their success or b) they aren&#39;t interested in the Canadian start-up space.</p>
<p>I feel as there&#39;s something fundamentally flawed in our startup system &#8211; and part of it could be that our government may be playing too much of a role in supporting the technology start-up space.  I think they may be inadvertently leaving little room for VCs and Angels to come in early.  I say critical because the difference in VC returns in Canada and the U.S. are staggering.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 01:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was part of a very ambitious, world changing startup last year that simply could not get any funding from the &quot;Early Stage&quot; investors including Brightspark, Garage, and Montreal Startups. It was great that they would take a meeting, but I really feel like they are not nearly aggressive enough in their approach to working with very green teams with big ideas. If VCs want big successes they need to increase their appetite for risk...including team risk.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Luckily for me I had another project in the back of my mind that I wanted to do, &lt;a href=&quot;http://civiside.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;civiside.com&lt;/a&gt;, which allowed me to continue innovating without skipping a beat. However, the fact that we couldn&#039;t find any investors for a big idea really forced us to move onto a smaller idea that was achievable with less resources, therefore once again essentially making us unfundable by VC and most Angel standards. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, in my view, if other startups essentially go through what we went through with our big idea, and settle for smaller ideas that can be self funded, the VCs are the author of their own demise. The problem is not that there are no interesting businesses, it is that there are no gutsy VCs.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As a sidenote, you can still make lemonade out of lemons. Our startup now would probably never have happened had we been funded earlier, and ultimately I will feel far prouder of what we have accomplished in serving Canada&#039;s soldiers than probably anything else I will do in my life, so overall I am pretty happy with how things have turned out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was part of a very ambitious, world changing startup last year that simply could not get any funding from the &#8220;Early Stage&#8221; investors including Brightspark, Garage, and Montreal Startups. It was great that they would take a meeting, but I really feel like they are not nearly aggressive enough in their approach to working with very green teams with big ideas. If VCs want big successes they need to increase their appetite for risk&#8230;including team risk.</p>
<p>Luckily for me I had another project in the back of my mind that I wanted to do, <a href="http://civiside.com" rel="nofollow">civiside.com</a>, which allowed me to continue innovating without skipping a beat. However, the fact that we couldn&#39;t find any investors for a big idea really forced us to move onto a smaller idea that was achievable with less resources, therefore once again essentially making us unfundable by VC and most Angel standards. </p>
<p>So, in my view, if other startups essentially go through what we went through with our big idea, and settle for smaller ideas that can be self funded, the VCs are the author of their own demise. The problem is not that there are no interesting businesses, it is that there are no gutsy VCs.</p>
<p>As a sidenote, you can still make lemonade out of lemons. Our startup now would probably never have happened had we been funded earlier, and ultimately I will feel far prouder of what we have accomplished in serving Canada&#39;s soldiers than probably anything else I will do in my life, so overall I am pretty happy with how things have turned out.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 01:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was part of a very ambitious, world changing startup last year that simply could not get any funding from the &quot;Early Stage&quot; investors including Brightspark, Garage, and Montreal Startups. It was great that they would take a meeting, but I really feel like they are not nearly aggressive enough in their approach to working with very green teams with big ideas. If VCs want big successes they need to increase their appetite for risk...including team risk.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Luckily for me I had another project in the back of my mind that I wanted to do, &lt;a href=&quot;http://civiside.com&quot;&gt;civiside.com&lt;/a&gt;, which allowed me to continue innovating without skipping a beat. However, the fact that we couldn&#039;t find any investors for a big idea really forced us to move onto a smaller idea that was achievable with less resources, therefore once again essentially making us unfundable by VC and most Angel standards. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, in my view, if other startups essentially go through what we went through with our big idea, and settle for smaller ideas that can be self funded, the VCs are the author of their own demise. The problem is not that there are no interesting businesses, it is that there are no gutsy VCs.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As a sidenote, you can still make lemonade out of lemons. Our startup now would probably never have happened had we been funded earlier, and ultimately I will feel far prouder of what we have accomplished in serving Canada&#039;s soldiers than probably anything else I will do in my life, so overall I am pretty happy with how things have turned out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was part of a very ambitious, world changing startup last year that simply could not get any funding from the &#8220;Early Stage&#8221; investors including Brightspark, Garage, and Montreal Startups. It was great that they would take a meeting, but I really feel like they are not nearly aggressive enough in their approach to working with very green teams with big ideas. If VCs want big successes they need to increase their appetite for risk&#8230;including team risk.</p>
<p>Luckily for me I had another project in the back of my mind that I wanted to do, <a href="http://civiside.com">civiside.com</a>, which allowed me to continue innovating without skipping a beat. However, the fact that we couldn&#39;t find any investors for a big idea really forced us to move onto a smaller idea that was achievable with less resources, therefore once again essentially making us unfundable by VC and most Angel standards. </p>
<p>So, in my view, if other startups essentially go through what we went through with our big idea, and settle for smaller ideas that can be self funded, the VCs are the author of their own demise. The problem is not that there are no interesting businesses, it is that there are no gutsy VCs.</p>
<p>As a sidenote, you can still make lemonade out of lemons. Our startup now would probably never have happened had we been funded earlier, and ultimately I will feel far prouder of what we have accomplished in serving Canada&#39;s soldiers than probably anything else I will do in my life, so overall I am pretty happy with how things have turned out.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryson</title>
		<link>http://startupnorth.ca/2008/09/16/turns-out-angel-incubator-vc%e2%80%99s-were-not-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-10705</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want to make a bigger issue about Brightspark than it is already or try to over analyze the situation.  Like many VCs in Canada and the USA they failed to deliver returns to their LPs and cannot raise another fund.  It happens all the time in the USA but people don&#039;t blame the lack of opportunities; hard when other VCs are thriving.  That said, the USA and Canadian markets are very different and the government needs to wake up and play a role.  The US government helped drive the VC sector with SBIR and STTR programs.  The Canadian government struggles with the idea of giving tax breaks to start up companies.  If they continue down their current path, they won&#039;t have to worry as there won&#039;t be any startups left.  Also, we need to create a mechanism to attract foreign capital to invest in Canadian private companies (tax breaks, real R&amp;D grants, etc.).  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://localtechwire.com/business/local_tech_wire/opinion/story/3061261/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://localtechwire.com/business/local_tech_wi...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Without such an ecosystem in place, like USA and Israel, entrepreneurs will not take a chance of starting a new company when the odds are clearly stacked against them.  As a first step, we need to attract some talented Canadian expats that are successful entrepreneurs and venture capitalists.  There are lots of Canucks down in the USA.  Canada has lots of talented people but we can&#039;t start at ground zero if we hope to succeed.  Recruit people that have the background to train the next generation.  Most Canadian entrepreneurs and venture firms are doing the job for the first time......the blind leading the blind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t want to make a bigger issue about Brightspark than it is already or try to over analyze the situation.  Like many VCs in Canada and the USA they failed to deliver returns to their LPs and cannot raise another fund.  It happens all the time in the USA but people don&#39;t blame the lack of opportunities; hard when other VCs are thriving.  That said, the USA and Canadian markets are very different and the government needs to wake up and play a role.  The US government helped drive the VC sector with SBIR and STTR programs.  The Canadian government struggles with the idea of giving tax breaks to start up companies.  If they continue down their current path, they won&#39;t have to worry as there won&#39;t be any startups left.  Also, we need to create a mechanism to attract foreign capital to invest in Canadian private companies (tax breaks, real R&#038;D grants, etc.).  </p>
<p><a href="http://localtechwire.com/business/local_tech_wire/opinion/story/3061261/" rel="nofollow">http://localtechwire.com/business/local_tech_wi&#8230;</a></p>
<p>Without such an ecosystem in place, like USA and Israel, entrepreneurs will not take a chance of starting a new company when the odds are clearly stacked against them.  As a first step, we need to attract some talented Canadian expats that are successful entrepreneurs and venture capitalists.  There are lots of Canucks down in the USA.  Canada has lots of talented people but we can&#39;t start at ground zero if we hope to succeed.  Recruit people that have the background to train the next generation.  Most Canadian entrepreneurs and venture firms are doing the job for the first time&#8230;&#8230;the blind leading the blind.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryson</title>
		<link>http://startupnorth.ca/2008/09/16/turns-out-angel-incubator-vc%e2%80%99s-were-not-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-2547</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want to make a bigger issue about Brightspark than it is already or try to over analyze the situation.  Like many VCs in Canada and the USA they failed to deliver returns to their LPs and cannot raise another fund.  It happens all the time in the USA but people don&#039;t blame the lack of opportunities; hard when other VCs are thriving.  That said, the USA and Canadian markets are very different and the government needs to wake up and play a role.  The US government helped drive the VC sector with SBIR and STTR programs.  The Canadian government struggles with the idea of giving tax breaks to start up companies.  If they continue down their current path, they won&#039;t have to worry as there won&#039;t be any startups left.  Also, we need to create a mechanism to attract foreign capital to invest in Canadian private companies (tax breaks, real R&amp;D grants, etc.).  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://localtechwire.com/business/local_tech_wire/opinion/story/3061261/&quot;&gt;http://localtechwire.com/business/local_tech_wi...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Without such an ecosystem in place, like USA and Israel, entrepreneurs will not take a chance of starting a new company when the odds are clearly stacked against them.  As a first step, we need to attract some talented Canadian expats that are successful entrepreneurs and venture capitalists.  There are lots of Canucks down in the USA.  Canada has lots of talented people but we can&#039;t start at ground zero if we hope to succeed.  Recruit people that have the background to train the next generation.  Most Canadian entrepreneurs and venture firms are doing the job for the first time......the blind leading the blind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t want to make a bigger issue about Brightspark than it is already or try to over analyze the situation.  Like many VCs in Canada and the USA they failed to deliver returns to their LPs and cannot raise another fund.  It happens all the time in the USA but people don&#39;t blame the lack of opportunities; hard when other VCs are thriving.  That said, the USA and Canadian markets are very different and the government needs to wake up and play a role.  The US government helped drive the VC sector with SBIR and STTR programs.  The Canadian government struggles with the idea of giving tax breaks to start up companies.  If they continue down their current path, they won&#39;t have to worry as there won&#39;t be any startups left.  Also, we need to create a mechanism to attract foreign capital to invest in Canadian private companies (tax breaks, real R&#038;D grants, etc.).  </p>
<p><a href="http://localtechwire.com/business/local_tech_wire/opinion/story/3061261/">http://localtechwire.com/business/local_tech_wi&#8230;</a></p>
<p>Without such an ecosystem in place, like USA and Israel, entrepreneurs will not take a chance of starting a new company when the odds are clearly stacked against them.  As a first step, we need to attract some talented Canadian expats that are successful entrepreneurs and venture capitalists.  There are lots of Canucks down in the USA.  Canada has lots of talented people but we can&#39;t start at ground zero if we hope to succeed.  Recruit people that have the background to train the next generation.  Most Canadian entrepreneurs and venture firms are doing the job for the first time&#8230;&#8230;the blind leading the blind.</p>
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		<title>By: John Philip Green</title>
		<link>http://startupnorth.ca/2008/09/16/turns-out-angel-incubator-vc%e2%80%99s-were-not-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-10704</link>
		<dc:creator>John Philip Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article Ali.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Let&#039;s all work our best (not that I need to tell you!) to really knock a few out the park. I think the way out of this mess is to have a bunch of big, shinning successes. When is Well.ca going to IPO???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article Ali.</p>
<p>Let&#39;s all work our best (not that I need to tell you!) to really knock a few out the park. I think the way out of this mess is to have a bunch of big, shinning successes. When is Well.ca going to IPO???</p>
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		<title>By: John Philip Green</title>
		<link>http://startupnorth.ca/2008/09/16/turns-out-angel-incubator-vc%e2%80%99s-were-not-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-2545</link>
		<dc:creator>John Philip Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article Ali.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Let&#039;s all work our best (not that I need to tell you!) to really knock a few out the park. I think the way out of this mess is to have a bunch of big, shinning successes. When is Well.ca going to IPO???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article Ali.</p>
<p>Let&#39;s all work our best (not that I need to tell you!) to really knock a few out the park. I think the way out of this mess is to have a bunch of big, shinning successes. When is Well.ca going to IPO???</p>
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		<title>By: Brightspark is Lamo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brightspark is Lamo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly, how about not kissing ass to Mark and Tony.  I used to work as a developer for one of their companies, and, rest assured...they are far from brilliant.  They basically forced the company into bankruptcy.  They have a terrible reputation for not working well with people and forcing their ideas on to others.  They have been telling everyone that they did BS3 because they wanted to...bull...I know many LPs who have clearly said they would never work with them again.  They couldn&#039;t raise another fund.  Moreover, I heard from a buddy in the valley who works at a large VC fund there that they will never work with Mark again.   Long story short....there is an issue of getting good deals, and then there is an issue of just plain old bad VCs who don&#039;t know what they are doing.   Mark and Tony (and Sophie) fall largely on that list.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Good for them to be doing service work...time for them to eat crow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, how about not kissing ass to Mark and Tony.  I used to work as a developer for one of their companies, and, rest assured&#8230;they are far from brilliant.  They basically forced the company into bankruptcy.  They have a terrible reputation for not working well with people and forcing their ideas on to others.  They have been telling everyone that they did BS3 because they wanted to&#8230;bull&#8230;I know many LPs who have clearly said they would never work with them again.  They couldn&#39;t raise another fund.  Moreover, I heard from a buddy in the valley who works at a large VC fund there that they will never work with Mark again.   Long story short&#8230;.there is an issue of getting good deals, and then there is an issue of just plain old bad VCs who don&#39;t know what they are doing.   Mark and Tony (and Sophie) fall largely on that list.</p>
<p>Good for them to be doing service work&#8230;time for them to eat crow.</p>
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		<title>By: Brightspark is Lamo</title>
		<link>http://startupnorth.ca/2008/09/16/turns-out-angel-incubator-vc%e2%80%99s-were-not-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-2544</link>
		<dc:creator>Brightspark is Lamo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly, how about not kissing ass to Mark and Tony.  I used to work as a developer for one of their companies, and, rest assured...they are far from brilliant.  They basically forced the company into bankruptcy.  They have a terrible reputation for not working well with people and forcing their ideas on to others.  They have been telling everyone that they did BS3 because they wanted to...bull...I know many LPs who have clearly said they would never work with them again.  They couldn&#039;t raise another fund.  Moreover, I heard from a buddy in the valley who works at a large VC fund there that they will never work with Mark again.   Long story short....there is an issue of getting good deals, and then there is an issue of just plain old bad VCs who don&#039;t know what they are doing.   Mark and Tony (and Sophie) fall largely on that list.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Good for them to be doing service work...time for them to eat crow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, how about not kissing ass to Mark and Tony.  I used to work as a developer for one of their companies, and, rest assured&#8230;they are far from brilliant.  They basically forced the company into bankruptcy.  They have a terrible reputation for not working well with people and forcing their ideas on to others.  They have been telling everyone that they did BS3 because they wanted to&#8230;bull&#8230;I know many LPs who have clearly said they would never work with them again.  They couldn&#39;t raise another fund.  Moreover, I heard from a buddy in the valley who works at a large VC fund there that they will never work with Mark again.   Long story short&#8230;.there is an issue of getting good deals, and then there is an issue of just plain old bad VCs who don&#39;t know what they are doing.   Mark and Tony (and Sophie) fall largely on that list.</p>
<p>Good for them to be doing service work&#8230;time for them to eat crow.</p>
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